I do but I am not responsible
In the video shared about Mooji, he mentioned about the realization that "I don't do anything as we get to explore the self with greater extent." Notice that this is a realization through observation: I wake up, without an alarm I have "no control" of the time that I will wake up. Still with an alarm, many things could go "wrong," the battery of the alarm, the fact that I went to sleep hungry and couldn't sleep well and overslept, etc. If we look at every activity that we do, we will see the chain of "cause and effect" behind it… and in this life, how that "chain reaction" started without my "choosing." Do we see that?
In the first video, we will explore a "brainy" point on predestination and the fact that "if I am not responsible for my own actions, because I really have no free will, then I cannot be accountable for my actions. I am not guilty of them."
The above reasoning of course is used as a good argument to see the need for "free will;" otherwise, why put serial killers in jail, if they are not truly responsible for their actions?
In the second video with Mr. Eckhart Tolle; he discusses our "responsibility," and that is in the well-being of our own consciousness. He even expresses about this illusory entity called the "me" (which agrees with Mooji)and then, he "enlightens" us with "Who you "are" is the primary consciousness. What you "do" follows that."
Please pay special attention to those words and observe them in yourself as they have great significance.
Notice the video below, "The Quran speaks" a good program due to the questions the interviewer is asking. The questions are answered by Dr. Shabir Ally.
In this video we can see that all is about "justification" of God. How "free will" is necessary to get God out of the hook for "creating" evil(because He created good, he created evil as well because one side cannot exist without the other.) "Final outcomes are not predetermined," even though often scriptures talk about God knowing beforehand what will happen. Not only that, the belief of reincarnation, goes beyond the realm of "free will" and "choosing," because there is "cause and effect" in it. However, a "Heaven" and "Hell" puts the "choice" back into the individual.
This is the Muslim belief as well as the Christian belief and other God centered religions. There is Godly judgment, so you are responsible for your actions.
Note that there is no point in the conversation where the word "consciousness" is used. All is about faith and beliefs. "Some beliefs do not seem to be rather logical…" Dr. Ally points out; but there are some beliefs which more logical than others, I may point out; however that does not mean that those beliefs are "truth."
In this video everything is about responsibility of actions. I am responsible for them and God will judge me and either give me eternal hell or paradise in return.
Finally, in this video by Adyshanti, the word "oneness" comes into the picture. If everything is one, who am I? Part of that oneness. This "idea" will flow nicely with Mooji's, Tolle's and Zen about non doing our own actions but rather actions flow through us as we identify with them. That is how the "me" appears. Therefore, by concentrating in our actions, we will not solve anything "wrong" unless we take care first of our consciousness, because our actions follows consciousness as Mr. Tolle pointed out.
Consciousness is primarily, awareness and our extent of awareness will dictate how responsible we could be.
How do I make sense out of all the above information?
Easy. Experience it for yourself. This is not a matter of belief.
There is obviously a consciousness of "doing things" for some. Others will find that they do not do anything. Either way, as long as our consciousness hasn't changed, then our activities whether we "do them" or not, those activities cannot be "elevated" unless my consciousness precedes them.
Consciousness precedes commandments and rituals.
Responsibility of action then is a matter of consciousness not a matter of be
In the video shared about Mooji, he mentioned about the realization that "I don't do anything as we get to explore the self with greater extent." Notice that this is a realization through observation: I wake up, without an alarm I have "no control" of the time that I will wake up. Still with an alarm, many things could go "wrong," the battery of the alarm, the fact that I went to sleep hungry and couldn't sleep well and overslept, etc. If we look at every activity that we do, we will see the chain of "cause and effect" behind it… and in this life, how that "chain reaction" started without my "choosing." Do we see that?
In the first video, we will explore a "brainy" point on predestination and the fact that "if I am not responsible for my own actions, because I really have no free will, then I cannot be accountable for my actions. I am not guilty of them."
The above reasoning of course is used as a good argument to see the need for "free will;" otherwise, why put serial killers in jail, if they are not truly responsible for their actions?
In the second video with Mr. Eckhart Tolle; he discusses our "responsibility," and that is in the well-being of our own consciousness. He even expresses about this illusory entity called the "me" (which agrees with Mooji)and then, he "enlightens" us with "Who you "are" is the primary consciousness. What you "do" follows that."
Please pay special attention to those words and observe them in yourself as they have great significance.
Notice the video below, "The Quran speaks" a good program due to the questions the interviewer is asking. The questions are answered by Dr. Shabir Ally.
In this video we can see that all is about "justification" of God. How "free will" is necessary to get God out of the hook for "creating" evil(because He created good, he created evil as well because one side cannot exist without the other.) "Final outcomes are not predetermined," even though often scriptures talk about God knowing beforehand what will happen. Not only that, the belief of reincarnation, goes beyond the realm of "free will" and "choosing," because there is "cause and effect" in it. However, a "Heaven" and "Hell" puts the "choice" back into the individual.
This is the Muslim belief as well as the Christian belief and other God centered religions. There is Godly judgment, so you are responsible for your actions.
Note that there is no point in the conversation where the word "consciousness" is used. All is about faith and beliefs. "Some beliefs do not seem to be rather logical…" Dr. Ally points out; but there are some beliefs which more logical than others, I may point out; however that does not mean that those beliefs are "truth."
In this video everything is about responsibility of actions. I am responsible for them and God will judge me and either give me eternal hell or paradise in return.
Finally, in this video by Adyshanti, the word "oneness" comes into the picture. If everything is one, who am I? Part of that oneness. This "idea" will flow nicely with Mooji's, Tolle's and Zen about non doing our own actions but rather actions flow through us as we identify with them. That is how the "me" appears. Therefore, by concentrating in our actions, we will not solve anything "wrong" unless we take care first of our consciousness, because our actions follows consciousness as Mr. Tolle pointed out.
Consciousness is primarily, awareness and our extent of awareness will dictate how responsible we could be.
How do I make sense out of all the above information?
Easy. Experience it for yourself. This is not a matter of belief.
There is obviously a consciousness of "doing things" for some. Others will find that they do not do anything. Either way, as long as our consciousness hasn't changed, then our activities whether we "do them" or not, those activities cannot be "elevated" unless my consciousness precedes them.
Consciousness precedes commandments and rituals.
Responsibility of action then is a matter of consciousness not a matter of be
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