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Your Divine Friend
DR.BK.Satyanarayan 
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Pain and Pleasure to fit all

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Robert was meditating in a group meditation. This particular type of meditation is about stillness of the body. To avoid making any movement and to become aware of our own breathing.
After meditation was over, Robert shared with his teacher that he felt bliss.
"It was a sensation of fulfillment;" Robert mentioned.
Then, Robert explained that he felt physical pain after a while during the meditation, but in this occasion, it was the first time that he fully accepted it, and the pain stopped being that bothersome.
His teacher said that it is good to feel those things, but equanimity is the teaching. Don't take pleasure neither pain. Remain in equanimity.
The students agreed with the teacher.
Isn't that a good teaching? :-)
It depends. Some will teach: "Do what is pleasurable. Avoid what is painful. It is good as long as it feels good."
Another teaching will say: "Sacrifice your pleasure now. Renounce pleasure now for it is just tempting you. You will indulge in it and you will forget about greater things in life."
Yet, Robert's teacher mentioned to remain in equanimity by not taking pleasure nor pain.
Which one is the right teaching? For sure, one of them has to be the right one, for those 3 teachings contradict themselves.
That is how 3 different "religions," 3 different belief systems emerged.
As we grow in awareness, we could see that the first teaching "Do what is pleasurable and avoid what is painful," makes sense. Most people will follow this. It is for the masses. Nevertheless, it is forgotten that duality does not work like that. Pleasure comes with pain. The more pleasure we pursue; equal amount of pain will be experienced in one way or another. The anticipation of pleasure is emotional pain until pleasure comes. Once pleasure is experienced, comes the pain of not being in pleasure. :-(
The above is the cycle of addiction.
The second teaching is about becoming acquainted with pain, so it is not that "painful" anymore and to avoid the other side of duality, that is pleasure as much as possible. This spiritual teachings was made popular when the understanding about the flesh, the body; as the culprit for not experiencing our spiritual side. That is bring the spirit up, the soul forward by denying the body. The masses could understand this teaching very well. "Don't do this. Do that instead." The issue is that pain could become the pursuit. It could become the "pleasure." More pain experienced means a greater state of sainthood.
Masochists are those who find pleasure in pain.
The third teaching is to remain in equanimity by rejecting both, pleasure and pain; seems logical; it seems "good"… However, in Spirituality to make an "effort" to reject duality means not to experience life but to become a machine. Duality is not "bad."
All of the above teachings have shortcomings. The issue resides in the type of consciousness we are in.
According to that consciousness, there will be a type of follower for those teachings.
A "normal" person has an addictive personality. If it feels good, you want more of it, always more. That is why the teaching of denying things is thought to be the answer to reform the person. But then, too much denial becomes an "abnormal" behavior. The question is, what is "too much"?
Thus, to deny both sides of duality; takes away the experience of life.
When our consciousness accepts pain with the same equanimity as pleasure, then there is equanimity in acceptance. That means, there is equanimity in experiencing life. When pain is not taken as pain neither pleasure as pleasure, when we abandon those ideas, there is freedom from pursuing something. It is just an experience.
Until our minds are not-self absorbed in the experience of one side or the denial of both sides of duality, then we will no experience balance, we will not enjoy life with gratitude.
It is pain bad? No. It is pleasure bad? No. It is pain good? No. It is pleasure good? No. They are neither bad nor good.
What are they?
Pain and Pleasure.
Please realize that it is our clinging mind, our mind full of attachments to liking something or even rejecting something (we become attached to that idea) that state is taking us out of balance and harmony.
The above teachings are not concerned about individuals, so they discover the state of their minds through experience and observation. Those teachings are more into putting a paragraph of "do " and "don't do" in a basic law, in a book to worship, so it fits all.
A "Fit all sizes" type of deal, will not fit all very well. It never has.

 
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Wisdom
 
Where wisdom is called for, force is of little use.
 
 
 
Humility
 
If you don't love a task 100 percent, somewhere underneath all the
hard work will be a cry for praise. Humility sees only what is good for
the task itself.
 
 
Playing My Part As A Hero Actor (cont.)
 

In yesterday's message we had discussed how we possess the potential in our hands to write the scripts of our lives and not let it be written by luck, as many a times we say. In this context, there are some of us who hold the belief that the course taken by each one of our lives is not written by luck but is decided by God, so it is egoistic on our part if we believe that we can write our own scripts, interfering with the plan that God has in his mind for us. So in times of challenges in our lives, although its not wrong to pray to God at those times, we commonly use words like 'if God would like it, I shall overcome this obstacle or I will be successful in this particular task or my health will get okay or I will pass this exam etc.' In times of happiness, although it's not wrong to thank God at those times, we completely submit ourselves to God's will, thinking that it is he and he alone responsible for what good that is happening in my life. In the case of the sorrow we forget that although God can help us to some extent, whether we will surpass the sorrow or not is very largely dependent on our past actions which are influencing the present situation. In the case of the happiness, we forget that though God's blessings do help and work, our past actions are a very important dominant factor which is creating situations of positivity in our present lives.

Respecting, thanking and remembering God is obviously very very good and the right karma but submitting ourselves blindly to God's will is an inactive response which prevents each of us from using our free will to make any choice at any moment and shape our future. While there is a master plan which is being played out on the stage of the world, a part of the plan is that we each have free will and an opportunity to decide our actions and responses. We need to realize that each one of us possesses an intellect, which absorbs the capacity to discriminate right from wrong, good from bad from God and decides how to act on the world stage. In this regard, there are two aspects. The first aspect is - God writes my life script completely for me without me playing any role in the same. The other aspect is - I perform actions and create my responses, based on God's knowledge of good and bad karmas which he has given me, so as to shape my destiny and write my life script accordingly. There is a fine difference between these two aspects, the second aspect being the correct one. This knowledge given to me by God is stored in my intellect; I am the master of it and can decide how to use it to play my part.
 
 

Soul Sustenance

Realizing Our Natural Nature of Peace


If we look at nature, we will notice that everything in nature – plants, flowers, etc. do everything they do peacefully – they grow, flourish, decompose and die in peace. We get an obvious impression from them that peace is their natural nature. Even the five elements – earth, wind, water, fire and sky are mostly peaceful by nature. It's only when we try and exercise control over them and interfere with their balance that they lose their peace. Most of us, irrespective of our age, even in these stressful and hurry filled times, act peacefully and express our peaceful nature in relationships by means of peaceful thoughts, words and actions, unless something is wrong in the relationship. We instinctively like peaceful relationships. If something is wrong in a relationship and it lacks peace even to a small extent, we do not feel good or comfortable about it. All this proves to us that we, like nature, are essentially peaceful by nature. That is our basic personality.

Most of us have, at some time in our lives and even more frequently in the case of many of us, experienced and expressed our peaceful nature. It's so natural, we are not even consciously aware of it. What we are more aware of is when we are distanced from the natural i.e. we are unnatural - worried, scared, irritated etc. But these unnatural phases always pass and we finally return to our peaceful self. There are some people who are permanently grumpy and tight with someone or the other, because of something or the other. On some days we also feel as if we are continuously living on the edge and continuously succumbing to frustration and anger. But even then, away from everyone's eyes; everyone, the compulsive angerholic (one who cannot live without anger) and you also, will, at some stage, look inwards, relax and have an inner personal spiritual retreat in which they will find relief by experiencing their true nature of peace.

Message for the day

True progress is to bring perfection to the role we play.

Projection: Usually when we think of progress we think of changing the role we play. The idea of progress is to change the place or the position that we are in. We rarely associate progress with the present position that we are in.

Solution: We need to recognise the fact that we can bring perfection to whatever role we are playing. When we continue to work at improving ourselves wherever we are, we will not only experience progress but also will be able to move forward in the position we are in. 
 
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Ishq karne k bhi aadaab howa karte hain
jaagti hoi  aankhon k kuch khwab howa karte hain...

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From: Chanda Zahoor <chandazahoor@yahoo.com>
To: Rukhsana@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 8:45 PM
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shukriya...


yaadon ko teri khud se juda kaise karen hum
ye ishq ki saza hai is mai rihai nahi milti

From: Duaago DR. <dr.duaago@yahoo.com>
To: Rukhsana@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013, 15:17
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achi sharooaat hai,
 
kahne ko us se ishaq ki tafseer hai bahut
parh le to aankh ki  tahreer hai bahut ........
 
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From: Chanda Zahoor <chandazahoor@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:28 PM
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Aaj hum Bait bazi ka silsila shuru karne ja rahe hain

is mai aap ko sher ka koi bhi lafz le kar agla sher kehna hoga

to aayen phir hum sab mil kar Bait Bazi shuru karen...


jo chalta hoon tere ishq k angaaron par
pair to jalte hain magar dil ko qaraar aa ta hai...



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Tere bina zindagi se koi shikwa nahi
tere bina zindagi bhi lekin, zindagi to nahi...

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Zindagi ik adaa, ik hunar, ik kamaal
Jin ko jeena nahi aata wo mar jate hain


From: iqbal sheikh <iqbalyat@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013 9:59 AM
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tu ne to dekhe hen wo aankhen wo rukhsar wo hont 
zingi jin k tasawwar men gunwa di humne
tujh pe uthi hen wo khoi hui saahir aankhen
tujhe maloom he kio umr lutaa di hum ne
On 12 September 2013 11:16, saba bukhari <sabasagar1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Dil ko karaar aankhoon ko taskeen mil gai
Parh kar tera nama us pey rukhsaar rakh diya

From: Chanda Zahoor <chandazahoor@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2013, 16:28
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Aaj hum Bait bazi ka silsila shuru karne ja rahe hain

is mai aap ko sher ka koi bhi lafz le kar agla sher kehna hoga

to aayen phir hum sab mil kar Bait Bazi shuru karen...


jo chalta hoon tere ishq k angaaron par
pair to jalte hain magar dil ko qaraar aa ta hai...



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Asi nazuk dil dey loog haan saada dil na yaar dukhaya kar
Na joothey wahde kita kar na joothiyaan kasmaan khaya kar
Tenoon kitni wari main aakheya ey menoon dil dil na aazmaya kar
Teri yaad dey wich main mar jasaan menoon inna yaad na aya kar


From: Duaago DR. <dr.duaago@yahoo.com>
To: Rukhsana@yahoogroups.com
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jhalliya, ishaq kamana okha
kise nu yaar banana okha
piyar piyar har koi kareda
kar k piyar nubhana okha
har koi dukhaan te hans da
kise da dard wandana okha..
 
rahwe naa Maola da.................

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Husn jawani duniya fani 
Shey har aanren jaanren
Rawey MOLA naam
Naam MOLA naam
Ishq samandar dil dey andear

From: Duaago DR. <dr.duaago@yahoo.com>
To: Rukhsana@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2013, 22:28
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jo dil da mohrim howe
wo sohna Rab pahchane....

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Dil darya samandroon dhunge
Koun dilaan diyaan janreen
 

From: Duaago DR. <dr.duaago@yahoo.com>
To: Rukhsana@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2013, 22:09
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kya samjeh mere zakham ki wo ghahraai , jis ne
darya to  bahut dekhey  hain samandar nahi dekha ..

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dekhi hai uski aankh mai pehli baar nami
yun lag raha hai jaise samandar udas hai
From: Duaago DR. <dr.duaago@yahoo.com>
To: Rukhsana@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:16 AM
Subject: «*» RUKHSANA«*» CHASAM E NAM.....
 
 
bahut mila na mila  zindagi se gham kya hai
mata'aa dard e baham hai to, besh o kam kya hai
 
ham eik omar se waqif hain , hamen na samjhaao
k lutf kya hai , mere mherban ' sitam kya hai
 
kare na jag main alaao to shair kis masraf ka
kare na shaher main jal thal to chashm e nam kya hai....


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